From ESPN.com:Wasting little time after his release by the Cincinnati Bengals one day earlier, wide receiver Peter Warrick on Wednesday afternoon signed a one-year contract with the Seattle Seahawks, despite avid interest from other teams.
The basic contract is worth $1.4 million, which includes a $500,000 signing bonus and a base salary of $900,000. But the five-year veteran can earn an additional $880,000 -- the difference between his deal with the Seahawks and the $2.28 million base salary that he was scheduled to make in Cincinnati -- through incentives.
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Looks like the battle at WR just got hotter!
Only time will tell if this is a "nice catch" or a "bungled deal"!
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for the record, I linked that in the shout out before this post showed up on my computer. Dammit Alba, I thought I had a clean scoop!
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You get the scoop, check, fair and square!
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I didn't see it in the Shout Out before posting this. Just bumped into it on ESPN.com
Posted by alba
OK, I was probably wrong about my scepticism about the Hawks going after him, I'm just concerned with his injurys the last two seasons. But I guess it's no worse tahn some other injury-prone players the Hawks have pick up in the past.
ReplyDeleteI'm going on record as having a case of foot-in-mouth thius month. First with the Comment about Kash, and then my bitching about the Hawks looking at Warrick.
Man I need a vacation! :D
Posted by vinnyhawkalugi
so i guess it's probably going to go something like this: warrick makes the squad, pathon and urban get cut, and end up on the eagles and niners. the pessimist in me says that one or both of the castoffs end up with more receptions than warrick, who gets injured and doesn't play past the fourth game.
ReplyDeletehope i'm wrong.
Apparently Ruskell, Reinfeld, Holmy and Allen are willing to bet a half-a-million that you're wrong!
ReplyDeleteThere's a lot to be concerned with, but I take faith in the fact that it's not Whitless making these moves, so hopefully they're calcualted and based on years of football experience, rather than the result of some drunken binge!
Posted by alba
His injuries were caused by rushing back to the lineup (trainers, coaches) and last year was a cracked bone near his knee, basically a complication from rushing back from the earlier injury. I don't think he is injury prone, he was injured once. Also, he goes by P-Dub, whats not to like about that? I like the signing.
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P-Dub? Sounds like the illegitimate offspring of P. Diddy and George W. Bush!
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LOL, Good ol' Alba.....always quick with the wit. ;)
ReplyDeletePosted by vinnyhawkalugi
great signing
ReplyDeletenot only does he want to prove the Bengals wrong for cutting him...but he also is in a contract year!
Ruskell and Reinfeldt...:)
Cross posted at the PI site:
ReplyDeleteNot to start the whole #80 controversy again (although I never pass up an opporunity to mention that Largent's number should have never been unretired!) but what number do you think Mr. Warrick will be sporting on Friday night?
15-19 are taken, as well as 81-89. Granted, Bobby Shaw (81) Ryan Hannam (83) Taco Wallace (87) and Jerhemy Urban (89) could pontentiall be released to make room for him in the 80s.
1,4,7,9 are available, but I've only seen WRs wear single digit numbers in college.
Whatever the decision is, #12 adn #80 are already spoken for, so HANDS OFF!
whos got my #17!!?!??!? im coming to find you...
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4th string QB soon-to-be on Practice Squad Gilbran Hamden is wearing #17
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I like the signing, and the contract is sheer GENIUS, but I do feel bad for Urban.
ReplyDeleteHe's really put his heart into the team, but now he's got to know that this means goodbye.
Good luck dude. Your work ethic will pay off somewhere.
Judging from this passage, Urban may be heading out the door, but he probably won't be first:
ReplyDeleteWhile Ruskell will make the final call, Pathon has not endeared himself to the coaching staff. Holmgren criticized the veteran’s conditioning at minicamps; more recently, Pathon missed a special teams practice and quarreled with assistant coach Bob Casullo, incidents Pathon attributed to a misunderstanding.
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Alba, your link is flubbed.
ReplyDeleteWhere do you think he will end up? Engram is doing well at SE, and I don't see Warrick taking that position until he gets his 'arms' around this offense.
But I see him starting out sharing time with JJ in the slot, and maybe taking more and more playing time away from him, and then even Engram.
Thanks for the heads up on the link. Here'a corrected version (I hope)
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I see Warrick immediately contributing returning kicks and punts, and then working his way into the slot like you said.
Good piece in the PI (I think) how Jon Kitna called Holmy to put in a good word for Pete.
Class act. Always liked that Jon Kitna.
Posted by alba
DUH! The link is to the article about Kitna putting in the good word. I guess I'd better concentrate on work!
ReplyDeleteOk, wild WR speculation time.
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D-Jack
B-Eng ( <-- you know you like that!)
Bannister
P-Dub
Joe J
Remaining for sure spot, D.J. Pathon, Urban.
Pathon seems to be unliked by the coach, he doesn't really fit the team as a deep threat, he doesn't have very good stats even though he has been in the league a while. Urban cannot be practice squad, he has used up his eligibility. He has been spectacular and inconsistent, and has had drops in crucial situations. He is kind of a deep threat, no stats but not much time in the league. D.J. is hurt now, but is the perceived best deep threat. He has also been spectacular and inconsistent, drops when he shouldn't have, D.J. also has no stats due to no time in league. D.J. is practice squad eligible. He is also IR/PUP eligible. I think they can IR him and be able to get him back week 6, but not sure. I don't know if PUP is a roster exemption. Possibility?
Regardless, I am pretty sure that any way we go we'll be fine. Its not like the #6 WR is going to catch 80 balls. I think the prudent thing would be to put D.J somewhere on the team, but where he cannot play, IR, Squad, whatever.. Put Urban on the roster as the #6, and either cut Pathon, or even better, keep 7 WR's. At the expense of what?
The possibilities: O-line, we had 9 last year, is 8 too few? Wayne Hunter would probably be the cut.
D-Line, we had 10 last year, are we willing to cut any of these guys? Joe Tafoya, Christian Mohr, Cleveland Pinkney, Kevin Emanuel? I am. That would leave us Grant Wistrom, Marcus Tubbs, Chuck Darby, Bryce Fisher, Craig Terrill, Jeb Huckeba, Rocky Bernard, Rashad Moore, and of course The Sackmaster. I think that is good enough. If they have to keep one, I say Cleveland.
DB, no, we aren't going any less than last year, which was 7. Marcus Trufant, Andre Dyson, Kelly Herndon, Michael Boulware, Ken Hamlin, Marquand Manuel, and Jordan Babineaux basically will all make the team. Sorry Bierria and Lowe, when its thrown to you, catch it.
LBers, last year we had 7, D.D. Lewis, Lofa Tatupu, Niko Koutouvides, Jamie Sharper, Kevin Bentley, Leroy Hill, Tracy White is probably that group, but we're missing Kaz here.
QB we'll have 3
Have to have a punter, kicker (seriously, one guy can't do both? I can't do either, but still) and for some reason a long snapper.
TE we'll keep 3, Mili, Stevens and Hananahananam. Why can't the H dog learn to long snap?
And finally RB. We kept 5 last year. Shaun and Mack are for sure safe. The others I question. I'm no Mo hater, but Scobey and particularly Weeks are threats to him, they do what he does. Not sure on the receiving aptitude with Weeks, he was a backup RB and Safety in college. But he can catch, 3 for 24 in whatever season that was... Carter, I don't know, does he have any upside? Does he "fit the scheme"? Right now it seems like he is a 3rd back with no return skills, and possibly a 3rd FB? Is the only reason we're keeping him to be a goalline back if Shaun goes down? And finally one of the rookie TE/FB/H-back guys. I say we keep Shaun, Mack, Weeks, Weaver. Weaver is also the 3rd TE, so he saves 2 spots (and starts practicing long snaps!) That leaves a spot for Kaz and a spot for Pathon, or Hackett if he can't be stashed. With the open DL spot in my opinion goes to Cleveland Pinkney or Morris. How bout them apples? Should have done a new post... I know.
Posted by JoSCh
WHat I don't understand is why Alex (I never catch passes) Bannister is safe.
ReplyDeleteI mean can someone explain to me why he even counts as a reciever? All he does is special teams, he could be listed as CB RB or DT and it wouldn't make any difference. He doesn't do anything other than special team, so why should he count as a reciever?
Personally I would rather keep Urban, a guy who can actually contribute offensively.
Oh and, before I hear aobut the big contract we signed him to; I know I know, and I never liked it then either.
ReplyDeleteAll I can say is that for the money we are paying Bannister, he had better do more than get his collarbone broken or just play special teams! Especially if we end up cutting someone like Hackett or Urban who could actually become decent recievers.
Why can't the H dog learn to long snap?
ReplyDeleteGreat post JoSCh - that one brought tears to my eyes I laughed so hard! I really like the way you're thinking. Hate to see Kaz and Urban as the odd men out, but this is a tough sport.
A few of our drat picks (i.e. Tony Jackson) will have to head to the practice squad or be completely wasted. Does Hackett have practice squad eligibility left?
I'm not sure if PUP is a roster exemption, but I notice they've already given this designation to Bannister.
Don't get all caught up in what specific roster spot he's taking Monkey, fact of the matter is there's only 52 spots left for the other guys, even if we call him a long snapper!
Not sure if he pulled Holmy out of a fox hole in Nam or something, but dude seems to have his roster spot all locked up.
I just don't have a lot of faith in his balsa-wood collarbone at this point, and can see him back on the IR before the team plane departs from Jacksonville!
Posted by alba
Even though at 12 Seahawks Street "we don't care what Mel Kiper says", I just lifted this from a post on the PI fan forum. Gives a little better background on why the Seahawks may be keeping Mr. Handrail around:
ReplyDeleteFriday, November 3
Sleeper of the Week: Alex Bannister
Editor's Note: Each week Mel Kiper Jr. will highlight one of the intriguing "sleeper" prospects available for the 2001 NFL Draft.
ALEX BANNISTER -- WR -- EASTERN KENTUCKY
At 6-foot-5, 210 pounds and blessed with legit sprinter speed, Bannister has the exact package of physical skills that NFL offensive coordinators are looking for.
In addition, he's also working to become a complete performer, paying the necessary attention to detail in terms of route running and downfield blocking. Through two games this season against Glenville State and Indiana State, Bannister has hauled in 14 receptions (seven in each game) for a whopping 21.2 yard average and five TDs.
And folks, he's not just becoming a one-year wonder. In '99, the angular wide-out hauled in 44 receptions, eight of which went for TDs, including an impressive six-catch performance versus Appalachian State.
Since last season, he's added roughly 10 pounds to his frame, while increasing his 40-yard speed to the point where he could end up being the fastest WR in the draft.
His participation in track this past year for the Colonel's was evidently a key to the improvement. Bannister competed in the 110-meter hurdles and also the 200-meter dash. In the spring, he clocked an eye-catching 4.22 in the 40.
The concern with Bannister is how effective he will be when it comes to dealing with skilled cover men at the pro level. He's currently doing his damage in the Ohio Valley Conference, against Division I-AA competition. That's why Bannister will be viewed as more of a developmental, long-range prospect who may need a year or two before he can be expected to compete for significant playing time at the pro level.
However, with his work ethic, along with the fact that he's working in an "I" formation pro set attack, you never know if the timetable can be accelerated. One thing is for sure, with Bannister's computer numbers, along with his productivity thus far, he definitely qualifies as a very intriguing pro prospect who will be watched very closely in the coming weeks and months.
Posted by Anonymous
I have two points regarding Alex Bannister:
ReplyDeleteUno: he has one major contribution to the franchise, and its a negative one---undercutting his route against GB for an open pick, and a free pass to the end zone...Hass has some responsibility on it...but everyone who watched knows Bannister screwed it up
B: he may be a special teams ace...but our special teams still sucked with him---so ONE MAN DOESNT MAKE A DIFFERENCE...cutting him and getting someone else who can do more then one thing (for example, Pathon can be a WR threat and a DECENT ST players) is a smarter move...we need versatility
its scary to see Troy Brown playing CB, WR, KR, PR, ST, and everything in between while Bannister can only play ST...
i truly think that Holmgren fought Ruskell about this one...no way does Ruskell say 'we're keeping him for special teams'...thats a coach talking (i like Holmgren, but i think hes the new BIFF)
Posted by ADP
Before tagging Handrail with full responsibility in the GB game, we went to that quick out like 4 or 5 times in that game in blitzing situations, so McKenzie was just sitting and waiting on that route.
ReplyDeleteThe whole team is to blame for being too predictable.
GOD HOW I HATE THAT PLAY!!!
Posted by alba
You're exactly right alba, the whole team was responsible for that lousy play. No doubt.
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction when I heard the Peter Warrick thing is changing a little because of one thing. I read the article alba linked to about how he was recommended by Kitna, and Kitna had nothing but good things to say about Peter, in fact said that he's one of the most well liked guys on that team. This news (which I had not heard before) does alot to change my opinion, ALOT. I trust Kitna who is a truly GOOD guy. If he says good things about him, I will choose to believe him. Until e does something to prove otherwise, I am now much happier with this signing. Besides, as long as he will return kicks, he is an automatic, HUGE upgrade over what we had, HUGE. With his speed and elusiveness, we might finally have a decent return guy, and that makes quite an impact on this team. Also his speed will help stretch the field, something many of us were worried about.
Hey I'm entitled to change my mind, especially whe new information comes along.
alba, my post has Urban and Kaz making it.
ReplyDeleteHackett does have practice squad eligibility, drafted in 04.
I generally agree on Bannister, I don't understand it. I argued the point a while back showing how he doesn't make our ST better, certainly not $1Mil better.
Anonymous, great, I agree, Bannister is a sleeper, I hope he wakes up soon...
monkey, P-Dub isn't exactly what you think he is. 4.6 40 out of combine, was considered immature with bad work habits (Kitna apparently he is over that, and that's great) and he returns punts, not kicks. Frankly he has very similar stats to Engram, similar body, and skill set. Not that there is anything wrong with that, just saying.
Posted by JoSCh
Josh, I thought he was faster than that.
ReplyDeleteThen that leaves me with what I first said, what's the point? If he's another Engram but not as talented then what's the point?
He's younger, and possibly a bit more talented (first round pick, 4th overall). Engram has pretty much always been a #3, and Warrick was for a time #2 in Cincy, so that could explain the slight variation in stats between Bob and Pete. I still like this pickup, he's probably better overall than everyone other than D-Jack. Just saying he isn't a burner.
ReplyDeletePosted by JoSCh
I like the fact that in order to make what he was going to get in Cinccy he has to make his incentive bonuses. I like players who are motivated to get results. I try and pretend it's not about the money but.....
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