In the NFC West Update, someone asked that instead of listing the "threat to win the division" I shold write "threat to make playoffs."
Then someone else brought up that the number of teams in the West that will be playing past week 17 is kind of low.
And then some one noticed a number error bigger than Enron and it all went to pot.
So...I figured, let's make everyone happy (and maybe get redeemed) by breaking down the NFC Playoff picture.
IF THE PLAYOFFS STARTED TODAY:
Team (how qualified)
Seattle Seahawks (West Champion)
Carolina Panthers (South Champion
New York Giants (East Champion)
Chicago Bears (North Champion)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Wildcard)
Atlanta Falcons (Wildcard)
Lets go division by division to break this down some more...
West: Seattle has it wrapped up for the most part. The Rams have a chance at the wildcard.
South: Carolina has yet to play anybody, but is good regardless. Tampa Bay and Atlanta will challenge for division title though.
East: Giants and Cowboys are tied for first right now. If Eli Manning continues to struggle, the Cowboys will over take the division lead.
North: The Bears have a great defense, but not much else. The Vikings are playing stronger as of late.
So...who gets in? Here's a hint: not whose up there now.
The west, as I said is wrapped up. The Seahawks should wrap the division up in the next few weeks and concentrate on getting a high seed.
Carolina will stay in...but not as the NFC South Champion. They're opening day loss to New Orleans tells me more than their seven wins can. the Panthers still have to play Atlanta twice and Tampa once.
Simply put, the Giants score. I think that alone can take them to the playoffs, especially in the NFC. They play Philly twice and Dalls once more, so they are in no way free from divisional play. If the Giants lose to the Cowboys in week 13, they will have to concentrate on the wild card.
The Bears have done nothing to impress me this season, Their defense is great, but the offense is woeful. With the Bears, if you get one or two big plays in a game, you can beat them. You really only need 17-20 points. The Bears still have to play Green Bay twince and visit Minnesota. To say the Bears have wrapped up the division is a stretch, and I don't think they make the playoffs. (More on this later)
Atlanta and Tampa Bay play twice, in games that could decide the NFC South race. I like tampa's defense to prevail and win the division, with Carolina getting in on the wild card.
I've filled up three spots so far (Seahawks, Tampa Bay, Carolina) Here's who I think will make it in.
NFC east champion: Dallas Cowboys. A solid football team, good defensively. Maybe they needed luck against the Eagles, but still good. Parcelss and Bledsoe have made for a good combination so far. A somewhat difficult schedule (Giants, Broncos, and Panthers) but a doable one.
NFC North champion: Minnasota Vikings. People made the mistake of writting off the love-boat Vikings early in the season. This team has come together and played much better. They've won three of their past four games, including an OT win over New York. You want to talk about championship caliber wins? That has to be up there. The Vikings have been given every reason to fold and they haven't. That makes them scary as we roll into December.
The other wildcard: New York Giants. They can put up points and have a defense to match. They lost to the Vikings, but not because of their defense. If NY gives Tiki Barber the ball more, this team can make the post season.
So we've got
Seattle (west champion)
Tampa Bay (South Champion)
Dallas (East champion)
Minnesota (North champion)
Carolina (wild card)
New York (wild card)
Let the debating begin,
Alan
Sorry Alan but you made another mistake. If the playoffs started today the Cowgirls would be the NFC east winner because they beat the Giants head to head and have the same record.
ReplyDeleteAnd the Giants schedule is BRUTAL from here on out, I doubt they even sniff a wildcard, they will be glad to finish one game over .500
ReplyDeleteI think Atlanta will get the wildcard you are giving to New York.
ReplyDeleteAnd I think the Bucs have been exposed, and have no QB, so will not make the playoffs. It will be the Panthers taking the division and the Falcons getting the wildcard. IMHO
ReplyDeleteIt's not his fault.
ReplyDelete;)
Posted by Bluefoot
Here's my take:
ReplyDeleteWashington:
I don't think the Skins are that good, but they keep hanging around in a tough division. The real danger with them is that they'd win a tie-breaker with the Hawks due to their earlier win. In the end the Skins are 8-8 and miss the playoffs.
Philly:
McNabb's sugery is huge and takes Philly out of the running. I think they'll make a respectable 10-6, but miss the playoffs.
Chicago:
They manage to hold onto the division but go a dismal 9-7. Lose at home in the first round.
Dallas and NY:
Dallas splits with NY and they both go 11-5, the tie in conference records, the title is settled by division wins. Dallas wins, NY a wild card
Atlanta:
Go 11-5 behind Carolina and get the wild card.
Carolina:
Go 12-4 win the South.
Seahawks:
Finish 12-4. The two loses will be spread somewhere between Philly, Indy, GB. I hope I'm wrong and the Hawks can go 2-1 one against those three, rather than 1-2. Losing to Indy would be best. How realistic is 2-1? McNabb's injury is huge, GB only has home field going for it, and Indy is a dome team in Seattle on 12/24--expect 43 degrees and rain.
Hawks and Carolina tie in records, but the Hawks win the tie breaker on their better conference record--going 9-2 vs. 8-3.
I'll stop now.
Posted by bokonon
found an error on monkey's error rant...
ReplyDeleteNO team can finish the season a game above .500 (8-7?)
My Predictions:
1. Seattle (in part of scheduling, and we hold the tiebreaker over Carolina if we sweep our division)
2. Carolina
3. Dallas
4. Chicago (Burleson cannot save the Vikings offense...remember the Vikings didn't score a SINGLE TD ON OFFENSE AGAINST THE GIANTS)
WC
5. Atlanta
6. New York Giants/Washington (cant choose, Washington has the defense while the Giants have the offense...)
Just Missed
1. ST LOUIS (thank the schedule and a ton of luck, in fact, thank the ton of luck right now, because you should be 1-8 right now...refs/TEN, brainfart/ARI, beat a superior team/JAX)
2. Tampa Bay...the reason being the fact that they already racked up a chunk of wins from Griese's time at QB...
Other so called contenders will fail...Minny will because they have no offense, their RB group is overdue for injuries...Philly sucks, with or without TO, just as I have said the last THREE YEARS...with their division harder, they finally get exposed now that they don't have a creampuff schedule
Good thing I put the Let the Debating begin on the end...
ReplyDeleteI took the current division leaders off of ESPN.com's standings, figuring that they would rank tied teams on the basis of of their tiebreakers (i.e. Dallas over New York)
This is apparantly too much to ask of the World Wide Leader in Sports.
Will update this later.
Alan
My take:
ReplyDeletePlayoff teams:
Seahawks (13-3, NFC West Champs)
Reason: First, because they're very good, and second because their schedule is very easy
Panthers (11-5, NFC South Champs)
Reasons: They may have a fairly tough schedule, but I don't like either Atlanta or Tampa. Atlanta can't move the ball consistantly enough on offense and Tampa Bay's defense may be showing signs of weakness.
Cowboys (10-6, NFC East Champs)
Reasons: They hold the tiebreaker over their top competitor, the Giants, and they've got the most balanced team. Still, I worry about Drew Bledsoe.
Bears (10-6, NFC North Champs)
Reasons: Their division sucks and they have a 2 game lead.
Falcons (10-6, Wild Card)
Reasons: While I don't think Vick is stable enough to lead a team to glory, and their defense has been poor against the run, they've already got six wins and have another couple easy ones on the schedule.
Giants (10-6, Wild Card)
Reasons: Living in NYC, I see them every week. They're not gonna go far at this point with Eli under center, he's just too inexperienced and inconsistant. But they've got plenty of talent on both sides of the ball and again, they've already got six wins. A 4-3 finish is reasonable.
Posted by Zach
Here's me going out on a limb:
ReplyDeleteAFC
North-Pittsburgh (12-4)win tie breaker?
South-Indianapolis (14-2)
East -Buffalo (Barely at 9-7, New England 8-8?) MY LIMB
West -Denver (12-4)
Wild -Cincinnati (12-4), Jacks./San Diego
(Both 10-6 tie breaker?)
Note: 10-6 team will not make it while one 9-7 team in AFC and one 9-7 in NFC will make it (sad)
NFC
North-Minnesota (9-7),Week 17 win over Chicago(8-8)
South-Carolina (13-3)
East -Dallas (11-5)
West -Seattle (13-3)
Wild -Washington (10-6), Atlanta (11-5)
Posted by 49erfan